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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and vote pages using three tildes, like this: ~~~. Four tildes (~~~~) produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! -- Graham ☺ | Talk 23:16, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Compressing of wikitext[edit]

Please do not make changes such as these, the whitespace formation is a software bug which should be fixed in the software and not by dirty hacks which make the wikitext ill-readable.

File a bug at if there is not an open one discussing the problem. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 11:00, 2004 Nov 23 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't realize that it was just a bug, not a feature. 22:21, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)


How funny! I was trying to delete the entry (having noticed that the target had just appeared) just as you added the note! You hit "Save page" seconds before I did! Noel (talk) 14:00, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

If you delete entries from WP:RfD (I had temporarily left those because they were deleted by someone else who didn't follow policy), please read WP:RfD#Notes for admins doing requests about what to put in the edit summary. Noel (talk) 04:32, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Opps - sorry -- 13:52, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Hi. I don't know if you're aware of it, but your last edit to Wikipedia:Unusual articles, in addition to the categorisation improvement also redacted the word "------" (if you don't see a word between the preceeding quotes, it was the-n-word) from the GNAA linked from that page. As you seem to be embarked on an impressive programme of category tweaking (and not a personal swearyword jihad) I'm guessing you (or whatever institution from which you're editing) has some kind of automatic "naughty words" removal system. That's probably something you might like to look into, as it has the potential to zap lots of stuff quickly, without your knowing it. -- John Fader 19:44, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Check this out[edit]

hey ABCD (please respond in my own Talk Bgs022) What happened to your Name on my wheel of fortune? its doesn't have ABCD. please try to fix it.

Replied on User talk:bgs022

Million pool[edit]

The time given for your guess on Wikipedia:Million pool (15:92) is impossible in the method of time measurement employed by Wikipedia. Please change it to something we can evaluate the validity of. 2-7 at 18:28.182845 (or any time) is still available in 2006 if you'd like to retain your mathematical reference. -- Cyrius| 00:28, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Fixed – ABCD 18:38, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Infatuation redirect[edit]

Hello, do you know what the situation is with the Infatuation redirect? I couldn't find any RFD discussion for it. - RedWordSmith 06:34, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Look under November 22. – ABCD 17:10 3 March 2005 (UTC)

Just as a heads-up[edit]

If you find a stub article without enough context (as Fox Fire was earlier today) it's helpful to check "What links here". Very often such articles are created by newbies who follow a redlink (often from a large list) and mistakenly assume that anyone who reaches the article they create will undoubtedly do so through the list and will thus already know the context. -- Antaeus Feldspar 18:30, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Good point, I forgot about that. – ABCD 18:59 6 March 2005 (UTC)

Blue links = trouble[edit]

I had to let you know that your "if this link is blue, I'm in trouble" entries on your userpage made me laugh and accidentally snort Diet Coke up my nose. That hurt, but it was worth it. Joyous 18:13, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I got those links from someone else's user page, but I forgot whose it was. – ABCD 18:42, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I've had a good laugh too, I guess someone else has beaten to me writing on your talkpage about it. ;) - Mailer Diablo 11:18, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
When I'm on at night, I often have the monitor colors inverted (white is black, black is white), so the link did look blue (or cyan, if you're picky). :^) -Jobarts 07:55, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

Soliciting votes[edit]

Interesting you have a no soliciting sign on the top of your page, yet solicit for votes on your RFA. I reallize you just asked me to vote, not to vote for you, but I think you would be much better off if you did not solicit votes. Many people frown on that. Just a heads up. Most people that vote on RFA watch it and like I, had already seen your nomination before you left the message. - Taxman 19:48, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

If there had been a no soliciting sign, I wouldn't solicit, but I felt that those who had voted last time might want to know that I had reapplied. – ABCD 19:54, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I appreciate the note. Ever since RFA went into subpages I've had a hard time following it. Jordi· 01:08, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Edit counts[edit]

Hi! It certainly was a lot easier to get counts when Kate's tool was working. What I did was to view my contributions and set the count to 500 per page. I then hit "next 500" until I reached the last page. At this point I reduced the per page count to 100 and went to the last page. Now there's less than 100 edits (starting from #2101, for example), which can be counted easily. Hope that helps! Carbonite | Talk 01:49, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hey, I saw your mention of Kate's tool on Carbonite's page. I believe it is working, but at a different location. Try here. I show you with 2805 edits. Joyous 01:30, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)

Thank's for the updated link! — Asbestos | Talk 17:07, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Hi, Jonathan. It seems I was wrong in connecting you with Alex Plank, and I would like to apologize. Just to set my mind at ease, I wanted to know if you'd be willing to provide a little information. I want to respect your privacy, so this isn't information about you, just something that you would know and Alex Plank wouldn't. I believe the place you went to school last year (I don't know if you're still going there, and I don't need to know) has an elementary school next door, or across the street, right? Could you give me the name of that elementary school? --Michael Snow 22:01, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Tolbert is what I was expecting, and I knew the information I had was dated. Anyway, thanks for doing that, you've completely satisfied my doubts. Again, I apologize for my accusations and for contributing to this situation. And regardless of what others may say, I think you handled it reasonably well considering the circumstances. Just keep in mind that if you do end up using admin abilities to deal with vandals, they may respond even more harshly, even though you probably won't deserve the mistreatment any more than you did this. --Michael Snow 22:37, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)


My pleasure. I seem to spend half my time dealing with vandalism, and the more help the better. Good luck! Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:14, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 00:23, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Let me add my congratulations as well. I was especially moved to support your nomination after seeing the way you handled yourself on your previous nomination. You remained rational and polite despite a lot of allegations being slung around with very little evidence, and I believe you will continue to act this way as an administrator. I've only recently become an administrator myself but I'd be happy to try to answer any questions. — Knowledge Seeker 00:39, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Indeed, congratulations! -Kbdank71 03:51, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Indeed, congratulations! --JuntungWu 06:57, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Congrats! utcursch | talk 07:43, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations! :) - Mailer Diablo 08:30, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Not bad. :-) Kim Bruning 10:50, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations! Rad Racer | Talk 06:01, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Congrats! You'll make a great admin Cynical | Talk 12:43, 11 Apr 2005 (GMT)

List of pieces, American[edit]

See: Wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion/List of pieces, American. Thanks. Hyacinth 03:06, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Help with VfD cleanup[edit]

Hi. I saw that you were the administrator who dealt with VfD entries from March 24th, before and after my own problem child, SHWI-ISOT. I think we reached a rough consensus for a merge and redirect to Alternative history (fiction)#Online alternative histories, and I am willing to do the work myself to help out, but after reading of the deletion policies it looked like such decisions are deferred until after closing debate and an administrator looks it over. It's been a while since debate closed and nothing looks like it has been done, so I wanted to check with an administrator and see if I should do anything or just wait. Thanks for your help and please respond on my talk page. -- Glen Finney 18:07, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for removing the VfD from User:Clout. Now let's wait to see what happens next. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 08:56, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for removing the VFD from Angela Beesley. I'm so glad to see that article kept! David Cannon 01:02, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Circumcision and Anti-semitism[edit]

ABCD I would like to appeal your recent decision to close discussion and delete the article Circumcision and Anti-semitism. This page was not listed on vfd long enough. Also most of the criticism of the article was not relevant to the current version which was significantly enhanced since the process began. If the article had been left, it almost certainly would had been further improved. I feel that this article was discriminated against on the basis of its controversial nature and will go through every possible process to see that this decision be reversed! Sirkumsize 02:31, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Michael Parks[edit]

Urk! The version of this you deleted was a new stub, unrelated to the VFD discussion - the original article had already been deleted, but the discussion wasn't closed properly. Also, it may have been vandalised multiple times, so I don't know what state it was in. Could you undelete it please - only the rewritten revisions if that's possible. Thanks, sjorford →•← 08:20, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Never mind, I've recreated it now. sjorford →•← 15:04, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

you deleted my article and i am not a happy camper (unsigned by RescueHero (talkcontribs))

JS help[edit]

Hey. I recently registered (I've been contributing as an anon for a while), solely for the purpose of being able to have my own monobook.js. I did this because I noticed you were doing some interesting things with yours. As an experiment, I decided to try to mangle part of your .js for my own; my intention was to have (in this case) my edit summaries always and automatically filled out as test (again, that's just an experiment). So, if you could assist me with a some .js that could do that, I would be appreciative. Thanks! :) Ph43r 23:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Ph43r 23:22, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
ABCD - you've been had. Ph43r was a massive page creation vandal. Sorry :( ugen64 00:04, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your changes too the moonbook.css[edit]

I think your changes broke my browser! I can't read the "Edit this page" "history" "watch" etc labels on the tabs and clicking on them doesn't work, either. Mozilla 1.4.2 (actually galeon 1.3.7). Could you please change it back. At least so I can check if it really is your changes that did it? It happend around the time I see you edited the MediaWiki:Monobook.css. I posted a note about it on village pump, too. Thanks. Shanes 03:45, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, I tried experimenting and putting the old version of Monobook.css on my userpage, but it didn't help. So either I am screwing up something, your changes didn't have anything to do with anything or I am just confused. Probably all of the above. Maybe after I get a good nights sleep I'll see things better and everything will be fine. Shanes 04:26, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yes it did!!! Thanks. But I don't understand why me having my own old monobook.csss shouldn't do the same thing. But it didn't. Anyway, everything is fine for me now. If you'd like me to test stuff like this in my browser in the future in anyway, just let me know. I like testing stuff ;-) Shanes 13:16, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Your edits pop quite often on my watchlist. I see you replacing html style tags with the quoted wiki style. I just wonder, do you use a program, or do things by hand? Just curious. :) (You can reply here, I will watch this page). Oleg Alexandrov 00:11, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I use a link in my monobook.css. – ABCD 00:12, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
OK, but how do you do the actual replacement? Do you mean your monobook goes through articles and replaces <i> with '' ? Oleg Alexandrov 00:23, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I mean monobook.js. – 00:26, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Got it. I for some reason got distracted and did not notice you replied here. Thanks for the reminder. :) Oleg Alexandrov 00:59, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
And thanks for the information. My curiosity is satisfied now. :) Oleg Alexandrov 01:07, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

IRC fun[edit]

Well, that was embarrassing. Thanks for the private message. Guess I should have read the documentation before plunging in! :-) FreplySpang (talk) 00:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)


I was just joking around. I think the En-0 template is ridiculous because this is the english wikipedia and everyone should be able to speak english (I do understand that people from other wikipedias do interwiki work here, but how would they be able to find out what template to put on their page if they can't speak enlgish). The En-0 category is especially crazy. Why would someone want to look up people who can't speak english? The commons got rid of the En-0 category (where the template does make sense) for that reason. BrokenSegue 23:22, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Susej[edit]

You closed this discussion a while ago, but I think you forgot to actually do the result. Just thought I'd let you know... :) --Dmcdevit 01:15, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

I deleted Susej, but the link in the vfd is to Wikipedia:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense/April Fools' Day 2005/Susej. – 01:24, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
So... do you mean the BJAODN page should be deleted, or it shouldn't have a vfd tag on it at all? Surely one of these... --Dmcdevit 01:28, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
I forgot to remove the {{vfd}} tag. – 01:30, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
OK, cool. --Dmcdevit 01:31, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

"history only" UnDelete request[edit]


From Special:Log/Delete, you performed:

20:57, 6 May 2005 ABCD deleted "User:Pmanderson" (owner's request)

In accordance with Wikipedia:Undeletion policy I'd like to request a "history only" recovery of User:Pmanderson (the policy indicates not going via Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion in that case).

Reason: explained at talk:republic - Pmanderson (a.k.a. Septentrionalis) asked me to establish for whom he might be poppeteering.

I'd rather not sign this, nonetheless: --Francis Schonken 15:32, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Tx - sorry for the trouble, the history didn't learn much. Maybe undo ASAP, I don't want to be biting newcomers (which I maybe already did). --Francis Schonken 16:12, 8 May 2005 (UTC)


Why are you protecting the featured articles against page moves? —Charles P. (Mirv) 18:20, 10 May 2005 (UTC)


Listen ------, I propose a zero-tolerance policy on vandals. I say you get one warning, and that's it. This shit's gone too far. I also propose a blocked users page that blocked users could edit at the village pump, but it's been met with a lukewarm response. You seem to be a pretty prominent admin, so I was wondering if you could help me. Thanks. Karatloz 11:46, 16 May 2005 (UTC)'s me again. If you're not responding because I called you a ------, I'm sorry. I was really mad when I wrote that, and I thought it was clear I wasn't angry at you or anything.'re not a ------, ok? Now can you help me with this? Karatloz 00:14, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Hey! Cockney here ;)thank you for welcoming me. of course, i just love the place and wanna help it be a one-stop shop for knowledge and stuff... and i do like to contribute, although most of them are minor changes... i don't remember changing A THING in the article about Portsmouth. so this is neither vandalism, nor my stupidity. i edited a few football-related articles, but not that one. thank you

ps nice place to be and nice lads, indeed DAMN... now i see what you meant.. sorry... but Yakubu IS going to Villa NOT Boro!! innit?


Hi, ABCD. You changed the missing article text to wiki coding. However, this is not enterpreted by the server when calling it. For some reason that I cannot divine, it had just been changed by MediaWiki Default to the default settings. Wiki coding does not work from these pages, so it is necessary to put in the HTML. I have put it back to my version. Could you have a look and check it out? Cheers, Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 19:36, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Hm, I'm not sure about this. On a couple of occasions, when checking edits recently made, the wikitext has been returned. Actually, this could be the reason: diff pages do not show up with Missingarticle, but normal links do. I don't know if there is any way around this. Cheers, Smoddy (Rabbit and pork) 12:43, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Page Non-white[edit]

I see you sensibly deleted this page after a recent VFD. Well, it's back. I was just about to put it on VFD myself when I found the previous discussion. I'm not sure of the protocol now so I wonder if you could advise, or assist? Naturenet 21:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Formatting issues[edit]

Hi ABCD. One remark. At Linear regression after you reformatted it, some text got messed up, becoming bold italic. This effect happens when there are unmatched quotes, like when you have the prime symbol, f'(x). It was this thing which stopped me a while ago from using a bot I wrote to do what you are doing. So, I think you need to inspect visually each page in which you do the formatting. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov 22:53, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"rf" template[edit]

Hi ABCD, I noticed you edited Template:rf to remove the "plainlinks" bit. Thanks, that was some leftover cruft copied from a previous version of the "ref" template, which uses external links. Out of curiosity, how did you come across this template, are you using it? I wasn't aware anyone else was aware of this template but me. Paul August 20:22, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

Ah I see. Thanks. Paul August 18:00, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mind Benders[edit]

Hello! I've noticed your past interest in Wikipedia:Mind Benders and wanted to share the following announcement with you! I've taken over the responsibilities of Mind Benders, and the page will now be regularly updated. Right now, the pre-round is open (it's more of a creative artistic competition), and round one will open soon (the questions are done, we just need to wait for the pre-round to begin/finish)! So why not check it out? I'll keep you updated! Thanks, Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 01:26, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

P.S. Feel free to pass this news on to other Wikipedians.

My talk page[edit]

Hi ABCD, thanks for restoring my talk page for me. SlimVirgin (talk) June 29, 2005 18:21 (UTC)

You're welcome. – ABCD 29 June 2005 18:24 (UTC)

Greetings from the United Federation of Planets[edit]

I noticed you pmed me on IRC, how can I assist? Cat chi? 30 June 2005 23:26 (UTC)


Why don't you believe that there is the Zlatiborian language? George D. Bozovic

Page protection[edit]

Why did you protect a large number of pages with virtually meaningless comment "prevent page moves"? Was it vandalism? Or edit war? On this big number of pages at the same time? When it will be unproitected? Your action influienced a **huge** number of editors. You cannot do such things unexplained. mikka (t) 19:52, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

All I did was prevent the pages from being moved - they can still be edited by anyone, just not moved. – ABCD 20:02, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Why? Look, there is a big crowd around. You owe people some respect, even if they are lowly nonadmins. mikka (t) 20:12, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
The only pages affected are featured articles, because they generally have a large history, and moving one can bring down the servers for hours (like when Wikipedia was moved in March). This is being done at the suggestion of the devs. – ABCD 20:19, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
All the more you had to explain this somewhere. Right now I am discussing the move of a page you protected. So are you saying I am on the brink of bringing a disaster?
Next time please write a useful comment, kind of "protected from moves due to technical limitations. Please consult developers, if the move is necessary."
I don't recall this problem with previous versions of mediawiki. Is it a new bug, or just histories were small before? mikka (t) 20:53, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
It's not new, just it takes time (sometimes hours) for changes to replicate to the DB slaves, as seen by the vandal back in March, and, while the DB is syncing, everything else is just left in a queue. Also, what page would you like to move? – ABCD 21:35, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
See Talk:Space Race#Capitalization. mikka (t) 21:56, 12 July 2005 (UTC)


Hi ABCD. Just a remark about style, in case you are not aware of it. For a matrix of dimensions m and n, one writes its size as m×n, rather than m*n. This is about your edits at linear regression a while ago. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov 16:10, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Oops! That was a mistake - I know how it was supposed to be, but I accidentally changed it. – ABCD 16:14, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mind Benders[edit]

Hello! I've noticed your past interest in Wikipedia:Mind Benders and wanted to let you know that round one is now officially open! Consisting of ten challenging, puzzling questions, it is sure to be tons of WikiFun! In addition, take a look at all 9 of our great artistic entries and vote for one of them! Hope to see you there! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 15:54, 16 July 2005 (UTC)


Please delete the Qiyamah/Temp page. It expired a while ago. freestylefrappe 23:19, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

How do you revert an article[edit]

? - Rajul 00:00, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:How to revert a page to an earlier version. – ABCD 00:19, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Anti-Semitism in Poland[edit]

VfD results - keep?[edit]

Could you please explain your keep summary of the voting results for Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anti-Semitism in Poland? According to my count, the results were the following: Keep 14, Delete 28, Merge and Redirect 7. Four (4) votes to delete should not be counted due to low voters' contributions. See similar criterium used during the Talk:Gdansk/Vote. IMO the outcome of the vote should be ruled delete.

Keep (14) 1. TheUnforgiven 2. mysekurity 3. Splash 4. Harmil 5. Xoloz 6. Deror 7. Grue 8. Briangotts 9. Kloniumus 10. Falphin 11. TheCoffee 12. GabrielF 13. wayland 14. Goodoldpolonius2

Delete (28) 1. Halibutt 2. Balcer 3. Space Cadet 4. jamesgibbon 5. Ttyre 6. SylwiaS 7. JamesBurns 8. Thorsten1 9. Radiant 10. mikka 11. Tomer 12. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 13. Akumiszcza 14. Ttyre 15. Irishpunktom 16. Pibwl 17. Forseti 18. A.J. 19. Molobo 20. Cautious 21. Lysy 22. Taw 23. Tirid Tirid 24. Schwartz und Weiss 25. Rubezahl 26. V1 27. logologist 28. rafikk

Merge and redirect (7) 1. Pburka 2. brenneman 3. Avihu 4. Chris 73 5. Pavel Vozenilek 6. Kpalion 7. mikka

Discounted votes (4) 1., 9 contributions including 3 for VfD 2. Signature unprintable, no other contributions 3. Gilgamesh he, low contributions 4. Hbk3, sock puppet - no other contributions

--Ttyre 23:16, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

After reading the comments, and examining the current content of the page listed, I determined that the consensus was to keep, though many voted delete for the version that they saw. The current version, at the time of closing, did not have the problems mentioned in many of the comments. I therefore used my discression as an adminsitrator, and closed the debate as keep. – ABCD 23:19, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anti-Semitism in Poland[edit]

You closed the above vote, stating that the result was "keep the re-write" I dispute this. By my own count -

Votes before pointing out/making the re-write

  • Keep x 12
  • Delete x 13
  • Merge x 6

Votes after pointing out the re-write

  • Delete x 13
  • Keep x 4
  • Merge x 2

Total votes

  • Delete x 26
  • Keep x 16
  • Merge x 8

By no stretch of the imagination is 26:16 votes a majority for the 16 rather than the 26. Indeed, an even larger proportion of people wanted it deleted AFTER the re-write ~~~~ 12:26, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

After further research, I have found that I was mistaken in closing the debate as keep - the article will be deleted. I appologize for my mistake, and for any confusion it may have caused. – ABCD 16:33, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you, but I feel that you should consider making a third visit to this VfD closure. The Deletion process is clear that an "unambiguous merge and redirect" is a "variation of a keep" vote. This would put the count at 26 to 24, quite clearly not a consensus for deletion. You might also want to see the discussion of this issue at the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. - SimonP 17:37, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
Don't feel bad man. I tried to close it myself but decided to reopen it for similar reasons. I feel for ya. --Woohookitty 04:28, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Final (hopefully!) Judgment[edit]

I have closed the VFD as no consensus, and have undeleted the page. – ABCD 18:12, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mind Benders[edit]

Hello, ABCD/Archive 1. Thank you for submitting an entry to the pre-round and/or participating in round one of WP:MIND. I sincerely hope you enjoyed it. Round Two, which I have made a bit more difficult than round one, will open at approximately 2 PM EST, Sunday, July 24. In addition, the voting for pre-round has also been extended until the end of round two. I hope to see you at Round Two, so prepare for some WikIFun!!! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 17:33, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Anon at Irish Reunification[edit]

Has just helpfully reverted for the goodness-knows how manyth time. Do you want me to take it to 3RR or can you just block them? I'm out of reverts, and I suspect this doesn't constitute simple vandalism-Splash

I'll block him in a sec. – ABCD 00:40, 24 July 2005 (UTC)


Anti-Semitism in Poland has been redirected to Anti-Semitism. An attempt to circumvent the voting process? Just to keep you up to speed with current events. HKT talk 22:42, 25 July 2005 (UTC)


Hola, no sabía que ud. compende espanol.

Hehe :D — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 00:56, 29 July 2005 (UTC)


I don't know if this is inappropriate, but I need your help. There is a strong disagreement over the page Arvanites. User:Theathenae and User:Chronographos are insisting that certain facts be omitted without stating any good reason. I have proved to them many times from official sources that those facts are accurate, and they have proved nothing. Whenever I request proof that those facts should indeed be omitted, they always change the subject. The talk page is getting increasingly long and the page has been protected for the past few days. I beg you to intervene. They are in violation of Wikipedia policy, motivated by nationalist feelings, and are refusing to co-operate. When I proposed Meditation I was turned down. Could you please just have a word with them, to remind them that Wikipedia policy must always be observed. Thank you. REX 17:31, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

A couple a questions[edit]

I have been absent from wikipedia for some months and I wondered about a couple of things:

1. Is there any way to get access to my old username if I have forgotten the password and have changed my e-mail account? All of my previous attributions are under romeoslion but I find myslef nearly naked since I cannot access this account.

2. I also cannot remember how to put the copyright or public domain tag under the image. It seems that the upload forms have changed a bit since I was last on here.

Please help me out. I am desperate!

kmccoy's RFA[edit]


Thanks for your support on my RFA. After nearly half an hour of mouseovering, I finally figured out which letter to click to get to this talk-page. :) kmccoy (talk) 04:19, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Jtkiefer's RFA[edit]

Hey ABCD, thanks for the support, I appreciate it. Jtkiefer T | @ | C ----- 04:48, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Other pub deletes[edit]

Hi ABCD. Thought I'd point out that when you closed the Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Arkles Public House, you missed 3 other pubs included in the VfD. Thanks. -R. fiend 00:16, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Deletion of IMSCF Syndrome[edit]

Hi ABCD. According to the VfD, this page was voted to be deleted but wasn't. What happened? Votes_for_deletion/IMSCF_Syndrome --Dysepsion 20:18, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

It was recreated. – ABCD 01:19, 7 August 2005 (UTC)


Hurrah! I note you've started nuking ASIN codes as well... thanks!

I notice you're hyphenating ISBNs. Is there any particular reason for this, or just personal taste? The software here doesn't need it, and it make no actual difference to the standard if the hyphens are included or not... I find missing it out prevents accidentally giving incorrect hyphenation for foreign publishers, where things can sometimes get confusing, but YMMV. Shimgray 23:38, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

The reason I hyphenate ISBNs is to improve readability. Also, I am using the list from for the numbers, so I don't have to worry about giving the wrong hyphenation. If all else fails, I remove the hyphenation completely. – ABCD 23:45, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. I didn't see any unusual ISBNs glancing through the pages you'd fixed, but wanted to politely check you knew the hyphenation was strange for the 8x and 9xx range. ;-) I agree with you it improves readability, which is probably v. helpful for people using this without the automatic lookup feature available. Thanks again for the help. Shimgray 23:54, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

I've just been put on WP:VIP by User:Kaldari, who didn't even wait for an explanation of the ASIN removals... thought you might like to know. Such is life. Shimgray 00:29, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

I've stopped the edits for now pending a consensus; could you leave comments at User:Shimgray/ASIN, so we can work something out? Shimgray 01:01, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Emergency with the Michael Jackson Page[edit]

Help! I was trying to edit down the Michael Jackson page, because the disclaimer at the top said that at 46K, it was too long. In the edit window, only the portion up to the section on Jackson's nosejobs was shown, so I just assumed that my changes would only affect everything up until then, and that I'd have to click on the "edit" links for the sections following that, but when I finally hit "save page," to my horror, I saw that EVERYTHING after that was gone! The earlier version is visible on the History page for that article, of course, but I don't know how to restore it. Help! Nightscream 8.8.05. 11:38pm EST


Hey ABCD: I posted this to Alphax's talk page:

(Oops, darn that enter key.)

What I meant to ask before accidentally saving a blank message is: We talked about your monobook.js on IRC yesterday, and discussed me copying it to my monobook.js and adding a block feature to the list. However, I've been unsuccessful; every time I try to enter the feature, it doesn't work, and all the features your code is supposed to insert disappear. Since you seem to know something about this, could you tell me: What do I need to do to add the "block user" tags to user & user talk pages? -- Essjay · Talk 04:53, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

And she responded:

I'll look into it on the Wikicities site I'm an admin at... try asking ABCD though. Alphax τεχ 07:33, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Since she recommended you, I'm asking you: Do you know how I can add the block feature to my monobook.js 1) successfully (as all my attempts have failed), and 2) without it removing all the other functions (as all my attempts have caused all the other features listed there to disappear). Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated! -- Essjay · Talk 07:41, August 9, 2005 (UTC)


It's up to you, of course, but there's no standard or approved way of writing ISBNs; they can be one block of numbers or grouped, either hyphenated or separated by spaces. (When I ran my own small publishing company this was explained in the bumf that came with my assignment of numbers.) They appear in all those ways on books and in publishers' catalogues, and the Wikipedia system works in all cases. If you just like seeing the hyphens then fine, but I thought that you should know that you're wasting your time if you thought that you werecorrecting them. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 08:52, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Func's RfA :)[edit]

Thank you, ABCD, for supporting my adminship! The $user is very[ 'happy' ] about it! :)

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

(This doesn't count as soliciting, does it?) ;-)

Functce,  ) 19:16, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

WWE Championship[edit]

Hi ABCD, Im SWD316. I was wondering, instead of making the WWE Championship article protected, why didn't you just block and/or ban the users who were vandalizing it???? — Moe ε 00:00, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

The problem was that there were too many different anons to block and ensure that I got all of them. – ABCD 00:01, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Oh well, I hope soon that you un-protect for others use. And also, if your interested you can join our Professional wrestling Wikiproject,since you did a good job with the WWE Championship article and everything, if your interested in Pro Wrestling at all. Later! — Moe ε 02:52, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Done, and thanks, but no thanks. – ABCD 03:05, 12 August 2005 (UTC)


Hello. I'm a bureaucrat on Commons. I've removed your request for adminship over there, there's unfortunately no proper majority after nearly three weeks. Thank you. villy 08:59, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Vandal Vendetta[edit]

Certain AOL (who else?) user(s) are on a vendetta against me and are removing external links to my sites from Radio Boys, Grosset & Dunlap, Supermystery, Mildred Benson, Roy Rockwood, Clues Brothers, Casefiles, The Dana Girls, Hardy Boys Digest, Undercover Brothers, Harriet Adams, Ted Scott Flying Stories, Nancy Drew, Franklin W. Dixon, Rover Boys, Stratemeyer Syndicate, Tom Swift, Jr., Tom Swift, X Bar X Boys, Edward Stratemeyer, Hardy Boys, Tom Swift IV, While the Clock Ticked, What Happened at Midnight, The Yellow Feather Mystery, The Witchmaster's Key, The Wailing Siren Mystery, The Viking Symbol Mystery, The Twisted Claw, The Tower Treasure, The Sting of the Scorpion, The Sinister Signpost, The Sign of the Crooked Arrow, The Short-Wave Mystery, The Shore Road Mystery, The Shattered Helmet, The Secret of the Old Mill, The Secret of the Lost Tunnel, The Secret of the Caves, The Secret of Wildcat Swamp, The Secret of Skull Mountain, The Secret of Pirate's Hill, The Secret Warning, The Secret Panel, The Secret Agent on Flight 101, The Phantom Freighter, The Mystery of the Whale Tattoo, The Mystery of the Spiral Bridge, The Mystery of the Flying Express, The Mystery of the Desert Giant, The Mystery of the Chinese Junk, The Mystery of the Aztec Warrior, The Mystery of Cabin Island, The Mystery at Devil's Paw, The Mysterious Caravan, The Missing Chums, The Melted Coins, The Masked Monkey, The Mark on the Door, The Jungle Pyramid, The House on the Cliff, The Hooded Hawk Mystery, The Hidden Harbor Mystery, The Haunted Fort, The Great Airport Mystery, The Ghost of Skeleton Rock, The Flickering Torch Mystery, The Firebird Rocket, The Disappearing Floor, The Crisscross Shadow, The Clue of the Screeching Owl, The Clue of the Hissing Serpent, The Clue of the Broken Blade, The Clue in the Embers, The Bombay Boomerang, The Arctic Patrol Mystery, Hunting for Hidden Gold, Footprints under the Window, Detective Handbook, Danger on Vampire Trail, A Figure in Hiding and others. This is doubly annoying as I was the originator of many of the Wikipages and my web pages provide additional in-depth information on these subjects. This has been going on for weeks. PLEASE HELP ME!--FWDixon 21:39, 12 August 2005 (UTC)


I'm trying to figure out why 24SevenOffice is relevant on Wikipedia. The company is a complete unknown in the business. With only 1000 customers, there are pieces of shareware that have more users than that. The consensus was to delete the article. The exception to that was the employee of 24SevenOffice who originally posted the topic who voted to "rewrite". Can you help me understand what reasoning went behind keeping the article? I've tried providing a neutral point of view on this, but its hard since the product really is an uknown in the industry. A google search for his company brings up 2000 articles -- most of which stem from blog posts, forum signatures with url's to his company, and information from Wikipedia itself.

Additionally, the same employee of the company has spammed his links across several technology articles and competitor pages in an attempt to bolster his position. Its an obvious attempt to market his product. I've fought with User:Sleepyhead81 on this (he is the employee) with no luck in finding common ground. Please feel free to contact him or myself for more information, but I would be very interested in finding out what criteria was used to keep this product page alive. Thanks in advance. - Sleepnomore 15:04, August 14, 2005 (UTC)